09 September 2011 @ 10:50 pm
womenlovefest - ruby (supernatural) - day one  

by [livejournal.com profile] sucksucksmile

[livejournal.com profile] womenlovefest - Ruby 1.0 and 2.0 (Supernatural) - Day One


WARNING: This includes major spoilers for season 4.





Let it be said that at times, I can be a complete hyprocrit.
When I first watched Supernatural I completely and utterly adored Ruby (1.0) and then she was gone and Genevieve came in as Ruby 2.0.
I was 100% one of those people who violently hated her just because she wasn't Katie Cassidy.
And then she was dead and that arc was over and I ignored it.
Until I rewatched the series.

In my second watching of Supernatural I loved Ruby 2.0 so so so much more. Ruby was the first antagonist (I'm not going to say villain) that came along that truly played the line of Is she good? Is she bad?

Even when she was involved in storylines intended to drag the boys apart and make her the villain, she still remained interesting and intriguing.
Even if I wanted to shake her, I wanted to shake the boys MORE for not realizing how well she was playing them against their weaknesses and fears.

Despite all her "evil" behaviour, I do truly believe that Ruby cared for Sam. And while she wasn't playing straight with what the boys believed she was helping them do, she was doing what she thought was right.

Not to mention I really enjoyed some Sammeh/Ruby smexin'. (*COUGH* I mean really, is anyone surprised here?!)

Ruby had attitude, in all of her incarnations, from sassy black maid to what I logically refer to as Ruby 1.5 (HEY she came in between 1.0 and 2.0 but she existed in a flashback, damnit!) and was one of the only characters, female OR male, that I took to immediately.


The women of Supernatural have a bad rap, as have the fans for their opinions about them, but I think the women of Supernatural have been some of the most interesting short lived characters throughout the series so far.
They've always had to be bad ass and be interesting enough to hold their own with the obviously enthralling lives of the Winchester boys.


While Ruby wasn't the first or only "bad girl" to appear on Supernatural (Bela, anyone?) she was the longest continual demon arc that we had had, and the first one that had anything other than a relationship as enemies with our main characters.

I should probably end this rant just by going:
RUBY RUBY RUBY RUBY RUBY







You know.
I think tomorrow I shall do a picspam/post dedicated to Ruby and her love of french fries.
 
 
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[identity profile] chosenfire28.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 03:06 am (UTC)
I just want to say thank you! Your constant stanning for Ruby 2.0 has made me go from hating her with a passion to actually loving her. In my hate I forgot I absolutely adore Gen Cortese and Ruby as a character is amazing, beautiful, and so damn badass.

The mini picspam is gorgeous!
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 03:10 am (UTC)
I AM SO GLAD.

Ruby 1.0 and 2.0 really have some serious differences, completely aside from the actresses and I think that does come into how people feel about her. But I really feel (and know, from my own silliness) that a lot of the hate is completely because Genevieve wasn't Katie.
That being said, I adore them both.
As actresses and as Ruby.
And we all know how much I'm in love with Genevieve so I'll stop there.


AND THANK YOU.
I really like it.
Although the caps did what I wanted more on Katie's side than on Gen's side.
But I'm still pleased.
[identity profile] spnfreak15.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 03:16 am (UTC)
<3
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 03:18 am (UTC)
So well said.
[identity profile] juliet42.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 03:28 am (UTC)
Did you know you're the reason why I started to adore Ruby 2.0, seriously.

I'm so ashamed of my "meta", but it's late and I have a slow connection and voice control.

[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 04:15 am (UTC)
The whole concept of "meta" kind of confuses me.
So I'd rather just talk about why I like the character and what she offers to the show and the fandom and why she's awesome.



And I'm kind of really proud. :D
[identity profile] juliet42.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 04:21 am (UTC)
I just rambled on a bit about Bela and misogyny in fandom in general , but I figured the closest category was 'meta'.

You did good. (Yes, I'm intentionally using good.)
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 04:26 am (UTC)
;)
Ashley: | 128 | the rubys like a good time[personal profile] fromtheashess on September 10th, 2011 04:48 am (UTC)
I know I totally was like dnw to you when 2.0 showed up and you were all yeaaah I know. Somewhere along the line though she grew on me. I have no idea where exactly or how. It was quite possibly you.Haha.
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energybar: I don't discriminate: equal opportunity[personal profile] energybar on September 10th, 2011 05:13 am (UTC)
I'm not going to go into a big thing about Ruby here because I plan to post about her sometime during this whole thing, but I am so, so glad you came around.
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 05:15 am (UTC)
aaaabsolutely.
I adore Genevieve.
I even bought Wildfire randomly because of my small not so small obsession with her.


I've got my brother watching Supernatural and he immediately was like I don't like this version of Ruby. and I was like YOU'LL GET OVER IT AND LEARN TO LOVE HERRRRRR.
energybar: put a spell on you[personal profile] energybar on September 10th, 2011 05:18 am (UTC)
LMAO YOU ARE SO WONDERFUL.
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 05:38 am (UTC)
yeeeeah. I watched all of season 1 in like 12 hours.
and then went out and bought seasons 2 and 3 online.

so now i have season 2 as well but i've only seen a few eps.
they're causing drama with kris and junior and its upseting me.
energybar: Slayer!Lana - born to fight[personal profile] energybar on September 10th, 2011 05:41 am (UTC)
I will weep the day Netflix removes Wildfire from instant watch. I have no money to buy DVDs SOB.
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 05:42 am (UTC)
SEASON ONE WAS LIKE 10 BUCKS AT FYE.
AND SEASONS 2 AND 3 WERE LIKE 15 BUCKS MAX ON AMAZON.
energybar: crap[personal profile] energybar on September 10th, 2011 05:46 am (UTC)
That's what makes it so devastating!
So cheap and yet so unattainable!
[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 11:08 am (UTC)
This post = ♥

Completely agreed that Ruby was one of the most fascinating characters in the series, hands down. Gawd, I miss her.

And word--she did genuinely care for Sam. Absolutely. Will ship it to the death.
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 02:54 pm (UTC)
Thank you!

Ugh she was just so awesomeeeee.
And when I heard Gen was going to be in The French Mistake I was so ridiculously excited to see her and all it would mean for the OMG RUBY? lulz.
And it absolutely did not disappoint. And she was hilarious and adorable.

Image
[identity profile] risskabob.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 11:11 am (UTC)
I remember when I liked Ruby 2.0 more than you did. :D
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 02:53 pm (UTC)
lol those were the days.
[identity profile] risskabob.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 02:56 pm (UTC)
I remember arguing with you about her awesomeness.

You have seen the light.
[identity profile] dulcedeusex.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 11:48 am (UTC)
I'm excited about this! I loved KC's Ruby and hated GC's until the two-parter with Anna and Ruby let herself get so fucked up... By the time it turned out she'd played them I was kinda like, really show? That was sooo not necessary!

Anyhoodle, will be following these posts.

BTW am doing some posts for Gwendolyn Post and if you've got time would love a picspam.
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 02:52 pm (UTC)
FROM BTVS?
Girl I will whip one up today.

That bitch was fierce and insane.
[identity profile] dulcedeusex.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 04:11 pm (UTC)
Yep! The one and only.

Thank you! Thank you! In advance!

Dang the actress was good! I always wished she could've lasted longer on the show and she was the only person that truly flummoxed Giles.

Her entrance was awesome. "Synchronised slaying, what'd you think?"

"Sloppy, you telegraphed your punches and took too long."

AWESOME lady who's awesome!
[identity profile] setentpet.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 04:42 pm (UTC)
i love me some ruby. i was like you too though in the beginning, hated ruby 2.0 but she grew on me.
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 04:43 pm (UTC)
and its a beautiful thing.
[identity profile] philomel.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 10:11 pm (UTC)
Here via [livejournal.com profile] womenlovefest

Even if I wanted to shake her, I wanted to shake the boys MORE for not realizing how well she was playing them against their weaknesses and fears.

LOL, Yes! I love fallibility in characters, on both sides of the hero/villain coin. And on this show, let's face it, those sides are not that clear.

she was doing what she thought was right.

Great point. And she was so much like Sam in that sense. Good intentions....

Excellent post!
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 11th, 2011 04:03 am (UTC)
I tend to love my characters with flaws, and Ruby definitely had them while still remaining a hot ass bamf. ;)


And I mean, she is a demon. Obviously her sense of what is right might not be whats best for humanity. But she isn't flip flopping around an issue.
She sticks to it and she believes in it.
[identity profile] jacyevans.livejournal.com on September 11th, 2011 03:15 am (UTC)
I have always loved Ruby 2.0, so it's nice to know that other people do, too :D (Although I have issues with her characterization at the end there, but ehhh) Still my favorite :D
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 11th, 2011 04:02 am (UTC)
I love meeting other people who appreciate her awesome.
[identity profile] eppic.livejournal.com on September 11th, 2011 03:18 am (UTC)
Preach.
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 11th, 2011 03:22 am (UTC)
Image
[identity profile] le-mru.livejournal.com on September 11th, 2011 09:13 am (UTC)
Oh, I agreee! I hated the demon blood arc, but I still loved Ruby! Ruby 1.0 was more sassy, but Genevieve Cortese brought a different quality to the character, not necessarily worse.
[identity profile] sucksucksmile.livejournal.com on September 11th, 2011 09:44 am (UTC)
Yeah I mean they were pretty different. But for a reason.
And before I start rambling my thoughts on that here. I think I might do that for my day three lol.


Yeah the demon blood arc was kind of... hinky.
It didn't make the most sense and sometimes it felt like a childish peer pressure enabling vibe.
But it had its purpose as much as there were flaws in it.